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PostSubject: Random Musings   Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:36 pm

I though I would create a thread for people to post any random thoughts they had about Yoruichi, Sui-Feng, or YoruSoi, be them epiphanies or inconsequential. Feel free to discuss ones that have already been posted as well as posting your own.

What if Yoruichi didn't become a nudist/naturalist/exhibitionist until after her century exile?

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:41 pm

It is my assertion in All of the Little Things that such is the case, that she was not excessively materialist in the time before her flight, but that she was materialistic almost by necessity (being Head of the Shihoin Clan will do that), that her life of asceticism was in no way her first choice, but something she adapted to and began to enjoy

My thoughts are rather on whether or not Yoruichi's zanpakto exists anymore. What if she left it behind when she ran? Or would the Shihoins or Soi Fon have interceded to keep it?
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:57 pm

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It is my assertion in All of the Little Things that such is the case, that she was not excessively materialist in the time before her flight, but that she was materialistic almost by necessity (being Head of the Shihoin Clan will do that), that her life of asceticism was in no way her first choice, but something she adapted to and began to enjoy
Well, there is a bit of evidence to the contrary, though that's stretching the definition of the word evidence. In The 3rd Phantom, they make allusions to her preferring to go naked pre-Exile. Even though the story was penned by Kubo, it's still an alternate universe so take that for what you will.

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My thoughts are rather on whether or not Yoruichi's zanpakto exists anymore. What if she left it behind when she ran? Or would the Shihoins or Soi Fon have interceded to keep it?
At first I though Yoruichi might not have a zanpakuto period. Those in the Onmitsukido are not necessarily Shinigami, and there are protocols in place for becoming a captain without Bankai (recommendations, defeat the previous captain). However, Yoruichi herself shot down that theory when she confirmed that Kenpachi was the only captain in his position by the unusually means.

She has one, and it's in her possession. Shinigami and re-materialize them after they break, so they likely can do the same if it is prohibitively far away. They are, after all, part of their soul and not just magic swords.

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:04 pm

But if a zanpakuto is part of your soul, how would someone else be able to keep it?

It's boring but I think the answer is simply that Kubo didn't plan on her being a somewhat important character, so he hasn't thought up her zanpakuto yet.


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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:40 pm

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It's boring but I think the answer is simply that Kubo didn't plan on her being a somewhat important character, so he hasn't thought up her zanpakuto yet.
Most likely, unfortunately. At least that's how I feel at this point.

I'm fairly certain I've said this before, but I still think about it from time to time:

Given Sui-Feng's (assumed, at best implied) heritage, do you think she's self-conscious about the size of her feet? Or has hangups about the size of women's feet in general? What with China's history of foot binding and all.

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:27 pm

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It's boring but I think the answer is simply that Kubo didn't plan on her being a somewhat important character, so he hasn't thought up her zanpakuto yet.
Most likely, unfortunately. At least that's how I feel at this point.

I'm fairly certain I've said this before, but I still think about it from time to time:

Given Sui-Feng's (assumed, at best implied) heritage, do you think she's self-conscious about the size of her feet? Or has hangups about the size of women's feet in general? What with China's history of foot binding and all.

Soi Fon would acknowledge the severe lack of utility that comes from foot-binding, i would say. If they are "properly" Chinese or not, the Feng clan wouldn't do foot-binding, because it impedes your ability to walk outside the house (that being part of the point, sadly), let alone your ability to be super kickass o'ninja. And they seem to be the only Chinese who get into heaven (and aside from Sun-Sun, the only Chinese that get into the afterlife period), so there'd be no shame in being the clan with the hideously large, unmarriagable feet :P
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:37 pm

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Soi Fon would acknowledge the severe lack of utility that comes from foot-binding, i would say. If they are "properly" Chinese or not, the Feng clan wouldn't do foot-binding, because it impedes your ability to walk outside the house (that being part of the point, sadly), let alone your ability to be super kickass o'ninja. And they seem to be the only Chinese who get into heaven (and aside from Sun-Sun, the only Chinese that get into the afterlife period), so there'd be no shame in being the clan with the hideously large, unmarriagable feet :P
She would acknowledge it, but plenty of people know that the standard of beauty is impractical (at best) and are still effected when they can't achieve it. She had seven brothers; the topic of women came up, specifically how they like them to look. Even if it didn't effect how she thinks of herself, I think it would effect how she see's other women.

But mostly, I just find the idea of Sui-Feng fearing publicly buying shoes because she's self-conscious about the size of her feet funny. I know, a beacon of cultural sensitivity.

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:13 am

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She would acknowledge it, but plenty of people know that the standard of beauty is impractical (at best) and are still effected when they can't achieve it. She had seven brothers; the topic of women came up, specifically how they like them to look. Even if it didn't effect how she thinks of herself, I think it would effect how she see's other women.

But mostly, I just find the idea of Sui-Feng fearing publicly buying shoes because she's self-conscious about the size of her feet funny. I know, a beacon of cultural sensitivity.

I could see it being funny, but not for me specifically, mostly because i've had that joke well-worn into me (in a different cultural context) by King of the Hill, where Peggy would take clandestine journeys to the other side of Texas to get her size 16 shoes that she would later relabel as size 6's.

A musing that has less to do with characterization: do you think Yoruichi is going to get a fight in the current arc? Given that it's the final arc, i think Kubo's going to give every Captain a fight (with Unohana getting one and Ukitake getting one for himself, both unlike the Winter War), but what of Yoruichi? It could cement her status as a lower-tier character if she doesn't get a distinct bout.
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:31 am

Since when was Yoruichi considered "low tier?" The general consensus I've seen has been that she's among the strongest in the series.

And I think she has to get a fight. Honestly, I think everyone will get one, really. At the very least we'll get to see how her and Urahara met.

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:54 am

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Since when was Yoruichi considered "low tier?" The general consensus I've seen has been that she's among the strongest in the series.

And I think she has to get a fight. Honestly, I think everyone will get one, really. At the very least we'll get to see how her and Urahara met.

Perhaps incidentally, as part of a peek back into the past for an unrelated reason, unless Kisuke once again becomes pivotal for the arc, but he doesn't seem to be leaning that way this time.
I meant tiering as in popularity (based on screen-time and emphasis), not in power. Take Unohana, where official character books and stuff have rated her as the strongest of the non-Yamamoto captains on an overall scale, but who gets much less emphasis than Hitsugaya, who is shown to be the weakest but as growing into his role. Soi Fon got more emphasis with her fight in the Winter War, unlike Yoruichi who played mere a supplementary role against Aizen, showing her declining significance.

One thing that is going to bug the hell out of me, however, is if Kubo fails to address why Yoruichi was missing for Fullbringer...
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:02 am

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One thing that is going to bug the hell out of me, however, is if Kubo fails to address why Yoruichi was missing for Fullbringer...
I think that was merely a case of the Fullbringer arc being a specific means to an end, and Yoruichi was not part of that process. Though I do want to see if Kubo even bother's trying to explain her absence. It's not like he has a history of doing that. It seems to be the case that Yoruichi spent a large portion of her exile (if not all of it) away from the Shoten, and we still don't know what she actually did.

One thing that's been bothering me lately is the sudden flair-up of drugged out Sui-Feng fics. We've had our second one in less than a month and this one even has her on cocaine. *ahem* Drugs are a difficult subject to handle well, but the use of them in those fics doesn't really feel to me like anything more than a shortcut to make her tragic.

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:07 am

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I think that was merely a case of the Fullbringer arc being a specific means to an end, and Yoruichi was not part of that process. Though I do want to see if Kubo even bother's trying to explain her absence. It's not like he has a history of doing that. It seems to be the case that Yoruichi spent a large portion of her exile (if not all of it) away from the Shoten, and we still don't know what she actually did.

One thing that's been bothering me lately is the sudden flair-up of drugged out Sui-Feng fics. We've had our second one in less than a month and this one even has her on cocaine. *ahem* Drugs are a difficult subject to handle well, but the use of them in those fics doesn't really feel to me like anything more than a shortcut to make her tragic.

Beautiful Sin bothers me for several reasons, some of which i brought up in the review section, part of which is my general problems with what AU, partially because Soi's character was quite badly undermined in making her a strung-out victim of a bad upbringing. I try not to be elitist when it comes to writing quality (because we all have to start somewhere, and the stuff i wrote in my mid-teens is downright horrifying for me to read now, but some of it still works on one level or another), and it could be the highly-logical sanitary phase i've been going through, but shit needs to be explained and to make sense. The author of Beautiful Sin isn't thinking things through, even if i find the idea of a fic focusing on age-difference (in a world where the age difference isn't irrelevant because they're both centuries old) intriguing.
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Tue May 08, 2012 5:16 pm

So what's the deal with Yoruichi's swimsuit? Was that a one time deal for FKT or is that just what she wears now?

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Wed May 09, 2012 1:31 pm

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So what's the deal with Yoruichi's swimsuit? Was that a one time deal for FKT or is that just what she wears now?

Pic? I'm not sure of what you're talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Wed May 09, 2012 1:36 pm

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So what's the deal with Yoruichi's swimsuit? Was that a one time deal for FKT or is that just what she wears now?

Pic? I'm not sure of what you're talking about.
Sorry, we just call what she wore in FKT "the swimsuit."

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Wed May 09, 2012 11:23 pm

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SoldierG65434-2 wrote:
So what's the deal with Yoruichi's swimsuit? Was that a one time deal for FKT or is that just what she wears now?

Pic? I'm not sure of what you're talking about.
Sorry, we just call what she wore in FKT "the swimsuit."

doesn't seem too drastically different from her modded Onmitsukido uniform. Of course, we'd need an actual canon appearance to find out. Kubo did say he was debating changing her look
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Sat May 12, 2012 8:21 pm

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doesn't seem too drastically different from her modded Onmitsukido uniform. Of course, we'd need an actual canon appearance to find out. Kubo did say he was debating changing her look
I guess I just find the swimsuit inherently funny.

Am I some kind of pervert for being the first to notice this, or am I actually the last to see it and the rest of you are just super polite?

Camletoe? Or is Yoruichi's ass just so big that it just makes it look like camletoe from the front?:
 

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Mon May 14, 2012 10:22 pm

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I guess I just find the swimsuit inherently funny.

Am I some kind of pervert for being the first to notice this, or am I actually the last to see it and the rest of you are just super polite?

Camletoe? Or is Yoruichi's ass just so big that it just makes it look like camletoe from the front?:
 

has to be cameltoe from that perspective, her ass would have to be droopy enough to hang down lower than the line of her crotch for it to be anything else from that angle, which wouldn't work in a skin-tight uniform in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Tue May 15, 2012 7:04 pm

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SoldierG65434-2 wrote:
I guess I just find the swimsuit inherently funny.

Am I some kind of pervert for being the first to notice this, or am I actually the last to see it and the rest of you are just super polite?

Camletoe? Or is Yoruichi's ass just so big that it just makes it look like camletoe from the front?:
 

has to be cameltoe from that perspective, her ass would have to be droopy enough to hang down lower than the line of her crotch for it to be anything else from that angle, which wouldn't work in a skin-tight uniform in the first place.
Not necessarily. I mean, if her butt was large enough, you would be able to see it from the front between her thighs. It all depends on where her crotch actually is in that panel.

Christ, what the hell are we even talking about? Something really needs to happen to this fandom.

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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Tue May 15, 2012 8:46 pm

...I've got no damn clue of what's going on here. Should I even bother asking?
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Tue May 15, 2012 11:52 pm

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Mr Khan wrote:
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I guess I just find the swimsuit inherently funny.

Am I some kind of pervert for being the first to notice this, or am I actually the last to see it and the rest of you are just super polite?

Camletoe? Or is Yoruichi's ass just so big that it just makes it look like camletoe from the front?:
 

has to be cameltoe from that perspective, her ass would have to be droopy enough to hang down lower than the line of her crotch for it to be anything else from that angle, which wouldn't work in a skin-tight uniform in the first place.
Not necessarily. I mean, if her butt was large enough, you would be able to see it from the front between her thighs. It all depends on where her crotch actually is in that panel.

Christ, what the hell are we even talking about? Something really needs to happen to this fandom.

You brought it up. The lack of color or shading of any sort makes the angle ambiguous, which would raise or drop the possibility of it being cameltoe.

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...I've got no damn clue of what's going on here. Should I even bother asking?
Fan-stream-of-consciousness. It goes to weird places naturally.
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PostSubject: Re: Random Musings   Wed May 16, 2012 12:04 am

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Fan-stream-of-consciousness. It goes to weird places naturally.
You have no idea. Cyber Sui-Feng was me exercising some restraint.

Moving to a different topic that doesn't involve me staring an animated crotch like some kind of goddamn lunatic; what if Yoruichi's just really tan? Unlikely given the longstanding anime trope of dark-skin and purple hair, but how would Sui-Feng react to Yoruichi pale-ing up?

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