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PostSubject: Love.   Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:51 pm

From the Bleach Bootleg:

Soi Fon & Yoruichi

Soi Fon and Yoruichi met more then a hundred years ago. Soi Fon was struck by Yoruichi's beauty and nobility, and swore her allegiance for life. While there has been discord between them at times, the bond they share is strong, and their love for one another remains unchanged.

(I'll post the pics and stuff on here once I get my scanner working or something.)
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:38 pm

Wait, is that from the licensed Viz translation bootleg?

If that's the case, the wording is pretty conclusive.
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:41 pm

Not to be a Debby Downer (or Bastard Bob, as I have been called), love can mean more than romantic love.

However, given it's use in the sentence, there is little hint that it means anything other than that. No mention of friendship or sisterhood. Just love. This love also appears to be mutual.


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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:38 am

can we consider this as a conclusive evidence? Oh My
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:41 am

With any luck I'll get my copy early, too, and I'll have my roommate scan the page and everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:40 pm

I don't understand. Aren't bootlegs like... illegal copies? What's this Bleach bootleg thing?
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:54 pm

Crimson Warrior wrote:
I don't understand. Aren't bootlegs like... illegal copies? What's this Bleach bootleg thing?

The bootleg was made by TK and it is sold in stores it's not an illegal thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:08 pm

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I don't understand. Aren't bootlegs like... illegal copies? What's this Bleach bootleg thing?

That's normally what "bootleg" means, but in this case, it's a book about Bleach that just has interesting trivia about the characters and universe. I have no idea why Kubo decided to call it a bootleg.

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:10 pm

Maybe bootleg means something else in Japan..
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:21 pm

I think the reason that it's called a Bootleg is that a lot of the information that we didn't already know is told by characters rumor style, not by Kubo, and is therefore "unofficial." For example, Isane talking about how she heard that there were underground hots springs in the Second Division.

That's the only reason I can think of.

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:48 pm

I always thought that Kubo calle dit bbootleg just because to him it sounded "cool"

I means it's the Official Bootleg - quite the oxymoron. It's just a little bit fun, and I highly doubtthat there's any higher meaning or reason to it's name.

I'm reserving my excitement over the wording for Yoruichi and Sui-Feng's relationship till I see a scan of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:56 pm

PolarisAmane wrote:
I always thought that Kubo calle dit bbootleg just because to him it sounded "cool"

I means it's the Official Bootleg - quite the oxymoron. It's just a little bit fun, and I highly doubtthat there's any higher meaning or reason to it's name.
You're probably right. I have a tendency to over-analyze little things and gloss over what's important.
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I'm reserving my excitement over the wording for Yoruichi and Sui-Feng's relationship till I see a scan of it.
Me too. In fact, even when I see the scans, I probably still won't believe it.

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:17 am

Ok so my roommate who owns the scanner went to sleep already, so you'll have to make due with ghetto scans (ie I took a picture with my camera).

First, the page where it's located: Here.

Second, a close up of the words: Here.

And some random other stuff I thought was interesting.

Garment says that Yoruichi is a Shinto god.

Soifon's idea for candy.

Soifon's drawing of Cat Yoruichi.
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:47 am

CaptainYoruichi wrote:
First, the page where it's located: Here.

Second, a close up of the words: Here.

And some random other stuff I thought was interesting.

Garment says that Yoruichi is a Shinto god.

Soifon's idea for candy.

Soifon's drawing of Cat Yoruichi.
with the "love" thing... before it it says that "the bond they share is strong." for some reason that kinda puts me off that they are a couple, though it could go both ways.

I like how Soifon has "Ms. Yoruichi" for the cat drawing. ...Ms... it doesn't say she's taken or not. ambiguous.

Who's "Garment"? and I'm not exactly sure what a Shinto god is, I'll have to look that one up

Thanks for the pics, Captain!

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:54 am

Well it's referring to the clothes that Kiyone is wearing in that picture. I guess the kanji says Yoruichi is a Shinto god. I am just curious if there is any significance to that. I'm going to have to look up Shinto myself. XD

And the kanji above the black cat drawing actually says "Yoruichi-sama" but Viz translates it to Ms. Yoruichi (or Lady Yoruichi).

Also of note, Omaeda renovated the squad 2 barracks to accommodate Yoruichi, seemingly in her cat form. Which either way, makes it seem like she's there a lot.

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His family is wealthy. Consequently, he has been renovating Second Company's quarters at his own expense. To accommodate Yoruichi any day, any time, every room on every level has heated floors, automatic doors and air-conditioning.

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:57 am

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Garment says that Yoruichi is a Shinto god.

I just noticed that on the uniform (I can't think of what it's called right now) that Kiyone is where there are two cats... well, faces of cats. black fur and gold eyes... hmmm. I wonder if Sui-Feng made it...

I'm looking forward to seeing the end of that omake and how they translated it.

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just read your new post.

I still don't get the reference. unless it's saying it as garment = cloths... which hardly seem to touch her body anyway.

I've read that before, about the heated floors and everything. It sure does make it seem like she's there a lot

and I think they should just stick to one translation. If Yoruichi-sama is always translated to Lady Yoruichi, they should keep it like that - unless it's wrong. but I do like the sound of "Ms."
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:58 am

Omaeda = money bags. At least he's useful for something, which might be why Soifon hasn't disposed of him yet. XP
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:14 am

A lot of what this Bootleg is saying has some rather large implications. For instance, the portion on Yoruichi's page that says she gave up her command to Sui-Feng. Not that she just gave up her Command and Sui-Feng stepped up, but that she left the command to Sui-Feng.

Actually, every thing that you showed is fairly explicit in it's implications. "...love for one another...?" Cat-shaped-honey-flavored candy?

YoruSui just basically fell into our laps out of the sky. Why do I feel more baffled than excited?

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:54 pm

I told Joy about the cat shaped honey flavored candy and she was like, "So Sui Feng likes cats in her mouth." XD

A pussy that tastes like honey. Hm Yeah that's pretty suggestive. XD
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:33 pm

Also, I remember reading before in scanslation that Sui-Feng used Omeada's funds to renovate to modernize the barracks, but I don't ever recall reading that Yoruichi was the cause.

Which begs the question; how much of this has been added by Viz, mistranslated by fans, or willfully ignored by them?

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:09 pm

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I told Joy about the cat shaped honey flavored candy and she was like, "So Sui Feng likes cats in her mouth." XD

A pussy that tastes like honey. Hm Yeah that's pretty suggestive. XD

Haha... gutter brains
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:51 pm

Well, Sui-Feng wasn't the vice captain, which implies that either everyone above her was incompetent or that she could have been left the captain's position by Yoruichi. So that is one of the things that might be true, in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:12 pm

What I'm getting at tough is that there are a lot of discrepancies between the Viz and fan translations. One has to wonder who is wrong and why.

I mean, it's not like Viz hasn't taken liberties in the past with their translations to make Bleach more "kid-friendly," but it's also not below scanslators to leave out information that they find "unsavory."

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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:17 pm

A lot of the liberties Viz has taken have been small things, though. Like changing titles, so that Yoruichi-sama becomes "Ms. Yoruichi" or "Lady Yoruichi." And Rukia's "Nii-sama" becomes "Byakuya brother" or just "Byakuya." Or Vizards being "Visoreds."

You could say the spelling thing, too, but even Kubo only recently revealed some of them, so it's hard to blame Viz for that.

Besides, if you wanted to chalk it up to Viz censoring things, wouldn't it go the opposite way? Hm fu
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PostSubject: Re: Love.   Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:00 pm

Well as Soldier said love can be meant in different ways and it could be a mistranslation but do I care? Heck no - it's open for speculation and I can at least pretend they meant it in the way I want it *g

Also Sois drawing of cat Yoru is awesome fu
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